เมื่อการเปลี่ยนแปลงสู่เทคโนโลยีสีเขียว (GO GREEN) โดยการสนับสนุนของภาครัฐที่กำลังผลักดันรถยนต์ไฟฟ้าสู่ตลาด เชื่อกันว่า เป็นนวัตกรรมที่ทำให้เกิดก๊าซเรือนกระจกน้อยที่สุด แต่ว่าก็มีปัญหาที่ตามมาในเรื่องของแบตเตอรี่ลิเธียมไอออน ที่กระบวนการให้ได้ซึ่งทรัพยากรธรรมชาติด้วยการขุดเหมืองแร่ ล้วนปล่อนก๊าซเรือนกระจกอย่างมหาศาล ขั้นตอนแปรรูป รวมถึงวิธีกำจัดแบตเตอรี่เมื่อสิ้นสุดวงจรชีวิต เมื่อมีการจำหน่ายมากขึ้น ความต้องการแบตเตอรี่ต้องเพิ่มขึ้นตามลำดับ
กระบวนการผลิตแบตเตอรี่ ส่งผลให้มีการปล่อยก๊าซคาร์บอนไดออกไซด์มากกว่าการผลิตรถยนต์สันดาปที่ใช้น้ำมันเบนซิน ร้อยละ 40 ของผลกระทบต่อสภาพภูมิอากาศมาจากการขุดเหมือง การกลั่นแบตเตอรี่ การผลิตเซลล์ โมดูล และยังต้องใช้พลังงานจำนวนมาก
ปัจจุบัน ประเทศจีนยังคงครองห่วงโซ่อุปทานแบตเตอรี่ EV ของโลก ใช้พลังงานไฟฟ้า ร้อยละ 60 เปอร์เซ็นต์ที่ผลิตมาจากถ่านหิน ซึ่งเป็นเชื้อเพลิงที่ทำให้เกิดก๊าซเรือนกระจกมาก ตามรายงานของ Wall Street Journal การทำเหมือง และการผลิตแบตเตอรี่ลิเธียมไอออนนั้น เลวร้ายต่อสภาพอากาศมากกว่าการผลิตแบตเตอรี่รถยนต์ที่ใช้เชื้อเพลิงฟอสซิลเสียอีก โดยเฉลี่ยต้องใช้ความต้องการพลังงานสะสม (CED) มากกว่า 3 เท่าเมื่อเทียบกับแบตเตอรี่ทั่วไปด้วย
พูดถึงกันมากที่สุด.. รถยนต์ไฟฟ้าได้รับความนิยมเพิ่มขึ้น หลายค่ายรถยนต์ต่างปรับตัวแข่งขันกันอย่างดุเดือด เป็นผลดีกับเราหรือเปล่า? ที่จะได้มีตัวเลือกเพิ่มขึ้นด้วย แต่เมื่อเกิดปัญหาน้ำท่วมจากฝนตกหนัก แถมรถยังผ่อนไม่หมด รถเก๋งไฟฟ้าลุยน้ำท่วมเพียงครึ่งล้อไฟช็อตรถดับสนิทจะตกเป็นปัญหาของใครถ้าไม่ใช่คุณ
อ้างอิงเกี่ยวข้องกับรถยนต์ไฟฟ้า
- โพสต์ทูเดย์ : ระทึก!ไฟไหม้บ่อขยะเมืองปากน้ำคาดแบตเตอรี่เก่าระเบิด
- ข่าวเด่นประเด็นดัง : เพลิงไหม้บ่อขยะขจรวิท ทางบ่ออ้างเกิดจากแบตตารีที่นำมาทิ้งเกิดสปาร์ค
- 77 ข่าวเด็ด : ไฟไหม้บ่อขยะ พลังงานไฟฟ้า ทางบ่ออ้างว่าเกิดจากแบตเตอรี่เก่าที่ทิ้งมากับขยะเกิดการสปาร์ค
- ไทยรัฐ : รถยนต์ไฟฟ้ากับสาเหตุที่อาจทำให้เกิดไฟไหม้
- CAR 250 : รถใช้ไม่ถึงเดือน ระเบิด Tesla Model S Plaid
- EV GUARANTEE : ถ้ารถไฟฟ้าจมน้ำต้องทำยังไง? ประกันจ่ายไหม? อันตรายแค่ไหน? เรื่องสำคัญผู้ใช้รถต้องรู้
- มติชนออนไลน์ : เจ้าของรถไฟฟ้า จมน้ำ งงข่าวเปลี่ยนแบต 3 แสน ชี้อยู่ระหว่างประเมิน ค่ายรถเตือนระวังข่าวปลอม
โดยจากข้อมูลอ้างอิง เรื่องของแบตเตอรี่รถยนต์ไฟฟ้า EV ว่าด้วยเรื่อง IER : Institure For Energy Research ต้องมีการขุดลงไปเป็นเหมืองขนาดใหญ่ซึ่งเป็นทรัพยากรธรรมชาติ โดยแบตเตอรี่ลิเธียมเป็นวัตถุดิบที่ต้องใช้ปริมาณมากต่อรถหนึ่งคัน และใช้พลังงานมากกว่ารถยนต์น้ำมัน (รถยนต์สันดาป) ถึง 3 เท่า
เมื่อแบตเตอรี่หมดวงจรชีวิตต้องทิ้งเป็นขยะอิเล็กทรอนิกส์ที่หลุมฝังกลบ ซึ่งอาจส่งผลให้สารประกอบอันตรายถูกชะลงสู่ดิน อาจเกิดเพลิงไหม้ขนาดใหญ่ ซึ่งควบคุมได้ยาก เนื่องจากแบตเตอรี่มีขนาดใหญ่ ปริมาณขยะติดไฟปะปนอยู่ การรีไซเคิลแบตเตอรี่ มีราคาแพง ยากต่อการกำจัด
ในรายงานเน้นย้ำว่ารถยนต์ไฟฟ้า (EV) ได้นำไปสู่กิจกรรมการขุดแร่ลิเธียม (Lithium) ที่เพิ่มขึ้น แม้ว่าแร่ลิเธียมจะไม่ใช่ทรัพยากรที่จำกัดเหมือนกับเชื้อเพลิงฟอสซิล แต่รายงานเปิดเผยว่ามีแร่ลิเธียมประมาณร้อยละ 25 ของประมาณ 88 ล้านตันบนโลกเท่านั้นที่สามารถสกัดมาทำเป็นแบตเตอรี่ได้ เพื่อให้เข้าใจถึงขนาดการบริโภคลิเธียม ให้พิจารณาว่า Tesla Plaid S ซึ่งติดตั้งชุดแบตเตอรี่ขนาด 100 กิโลวัตต์ชั่วโมง จะใช้ลิเธียมประมาณ 62 กิโลกรัม เทียบเท่ากับแบตเตอรี่ 18,650 ถึง 7,920 ก้อน อ้างอิงมาจากบทความ : แร่ Lithium ยิ่งขุดยิ่งเจอผลกระทบด้านสิ่งแวดล้อม
แฟ้มภาพ : ไฟไหม้บ่อขยะ เมืองปากน้ำ จ.สมุทรปราการ รถดับเพลิงกว่า 10 คัน ระดมฉีดน้ำดับไฟไหม้บ่อขยะบนเนื้อที่กว่า 100 ไร่ควบคุมเพลิงได้ภายในไม่ถึงชั่วโมง ไม่ส่งผลกระทบกับชุมชนใกล้เคียง คาดเกิดจากแบตเตอรี่เก่าเกิดการสปาร์ค
การขุดหาแร่เป็นความไม่ยั่งยืน เนื่องจากการผลิตรถยนต์ไฟฟ้าแทนที่รถยนต์สันดาปทุกคัน จะทำให้ต้องมีการขุดในระดับที่น่าตกใจ และยังทำลายสิ่งแวดล้อม ซึ่งในรายงานระบุวิธีการสกัดแร่ลิเธียมด้วยวิธีต่างๆ และเน้นย้ำว่า สกัดด้วยน้ำเค็ม เป็นหนึ่งในวิธีการที่เป็นอันตรายต่อสิ่งแวดล้อมมากที่สุด กระบวนการนี้เกี่ยวข้องกับการสูบน้ำที่อุดมด้วยเกลือจากพื้นดินเข้าสู่สระระเหย โดยแร่ลิเธียมที่อยู่ในสระจะค่อยๆ สะสมตัวเมื่อน้ำระเหยออกไป น่าเสียดายที่กรรมวิธีการสกัดแร่ริเธียมนี้ทิ้งสารเคมีเป็นพิษไว้ มีการปนเปื้อนสู่แหล่งน้ำสะอาด แผ่นดิน และในอากาศ ก่อให้เกิดความเสี่ยงต่อสุขภาพของผู้คนในท้องถิ่น
เหมืองลิเธียม Ganzizhou Rongda ในทิเบต เป็นตัวอย่างชัดเจนที่ได้รับผลกระทบจากการสกัดแร่ลิเธียมด้วยน้ำเค็ม เหมืองแห่งนี้ถูกตำหนิว่าสร้างพิษให้กับแม่น้ำที่อยู่ใกล้เคียง ส่งผลให้ปลา สัตว์น้ำนานาชนิด และปศุสัตว์ที่อาศัยในแหล่งน้ำเสียชีวิตเป็นจำนวนมาก
การค้นพบข้อเสียของการขุดแร่ลิเธียมนี้ ได้เน้นย้ำถึงความจำเป็นเร่งด่วนในการจัดการกับผลกระทบด้านสิ่งแวดล้อมที่เกี่ยวข้องกับการทำเหมืองแร่ลิเธียมที่กำลังเฟื่องฟูที่ถูกขับเคลื่อนโดยอุตสาหกรรมยานยนต์ไฟฟ้า ต้องเรียกร้องให้มีการแก้ปัญหาที่ยั่งยืนซึ่งช่วยลดผลกระทบด้านลบของการสกัดทรัพยากร
องค์ประกอบของแบตเตอรี่ลิเธียมไอออน ประกอบด้วยเซลล์ซึ่งมีวัสดุออกฤทธิ์ ระบบจัดการแบตเตอรี่ และแพ็คซึ่งเป็นโครงสร้างที่ใช้ติดตั้งเซลล์ อลูมิเนียมมีความสำคัญต่อส่วนประกอบของบรรจุภัณฑ์เนื่องจากมีน้ำหนักเบา แต่เป็นวัสดุที่ใช้พลังงานมาก คิดเป็นร้อยละ 17 ของการปล่อยก๊าซคาร์บอนไดออกไซด์จากแบตเตอรี่ และร้อยละ 40 ของการปล่อยก๊าซคาร์บอนไดออกไซด์ของแบตเตอรี่นั้น มาจากขั้นตอนการขุด การแปลง และการกลั่นกรองวัสดุออกฤทธิ์ของเซลล์ ซึ่งนิกเกิล แมงกานีส โคบอลต์ ลิเธียมถูกแปรรูปเป็นผงแคโทด การผลิตเซลล์ตามจริงเป็นกิจกรรมที่ต้องการพลังงานมากเป็นอันดับ 2 และคิดเป็นร้อยละ 20 ของปริมาณการปล่อยก๊าซคาร์บอนไดออกไซด์อันเนื่องมาจากพลังงานที่ใช้ในระหว่างกระบวนการผลิต
แฟ้มภาพ : ภาพเหมืองลิเธียม Ganzizhou Rongda ในทิเบต การกำจัดแบตเตอรี่ยังเป็นภัยคุกคามต่อสภาพอากาศอีกด้วย หากแบตเตอรี่ถูกฝังกลบ เซลล์ของแบตเตอรี่ยังคงสามารถปล่อยสารพิษ รวมถึงโลหะหนักที่สามารถรั่วไหลลงสู่แผ่นดิน และแหล่งน้ำใต้ดินได้ การศึกษาจากออสเตรเลียพบว่าแบตเตอรี่ลิเธียมไอออนร้อยละ 98.3 ต้องไปฝังกลบ ซึ่งเพิ่มโอกาสที่จะเกิดเพลิงไหม้จากหลุมฝังกลบที่อาจลุกไหม้ได้นานหลายปีตามที่เป็นข่าวทั่วไป
ปัญหาเกี่ยวกับการขุดวัตถุดิบแบตเตอรี่ โดยทั่วไปการขุด 2 ประเภท ที่เป็นสิ่งจำเป็นในการสกัดแร่ คือ การขุดแบบเปิด และการสกัดน้ำเค็ม (น้ำเกลือ) โดยใช้น้ำปริมาณมากที่ถูกสูบ เข้าไปในบ่อเกลือ เพื่อนำน้ำเค็ม ที่มีแร่ธาตุขึ้นสู่ผิวน้ำ เมื่อน้ำระเหย ลิเธียมจะถูกกรองจากส่วนผสม แต่กระบวนการที่ใช้น้ำมาก ย่อมมีโอกาสปนเปื้อนในแหล่งน้ำได้ แหล่งลิเธียมมากกว่าครึ่งหนึ่งของโลก ตั้งอยู่ในพื้นที่ที่เรียกว่า ลิเธียมไทรแองเกิล ซึ่งครอบคลุมพื้นที่เทือกเขาแอนเดียนของอาร์เจนตินา โบลิเวีย และชิลี พื้นที่นี้เป็นหนึ่งในสถานที่แห้งแล้งสุดของโลก โดยต้องใช้น้ำมากถึงร้อยละ 65 ของภูมิภาค ความต้องการที่เพิ่มขึ้นจะสร้างแรงกดดันต่อปัญหาน้ำมากขึ้นตามลำดับ
โคบอลต์ที่จำเป็นสำหรับยานพาหนะไฟฟ้าซึ่งส่วนใหญ่ขุดในสาธารณรัฐประชาธิปไตยคองโก (DRC) การทำเหมืองแร่ ก่อให้เกิดผลพลอยได้ที่เป็นอันตรายซึ่งสามารถเป็นพิษต่อสิ่งแวดล้อม เหมืองโคบอลต์ประกอบด้วยกำมะถัน ซึ่งสร้างกรดซัลฟิวริก เมื่อสัมผัสกับอากาศ และน้ำที่ปนเปื้อนลงสู่แม่น้ำ
แรงงานเด็กยังคงถูกนำมาใช้สกัดแร่ในประเทศคองโก เพื่อขุดโคบอลต์ รวมถึงร้อยละ 80 ของเหมืองโคบอลต์ อุตสาหกรรมใน DRC เป็นเจ้าของ หรือได้รับทุนสนับสนุนจากบริษัทประเทศจีนด้วย โดยเรื่องนี้ถูกบันทึกในสภาวะอันตรายโดยคนงานเหมืองฝีมือดี รวมถึงเด็กๆ หลายพันคน ขุดโคบอลต์ในสาธารณรัฐประชาธิปไตยคองโก คนงานเหมืองขุดหินจากอุโมงค์ลึกลงไปใต้ดินโดยใช้เครื่องมือช่างขั้นพื้นฐาน และเกิดอุบัติเหตุบ่อยครั้ง แม้ว่าการสัมผัสโคบอลต์เป็นเวลานานอาจส่งผลเสียต่อสุขภาพ แต่คนงานเหมืองทั้งผู้ใหญ่ และเด็กยังคงทำงานโดยไม่มีอุปกรณ์ป้องกันเลย
หมายเหตุ : ภาพและวีดีโอในบทความเรื่องนี้ มาจากฐานข้อมูลของเว็บไซต์อื่นๆ หากว่ามีการถูกลบหรือโยกย้ายจะส่งผลให้ไม่แสดงผลตามไปด้วย
Hey people!!!!!
Good mood and good luck to everyone!!!!!
So which one is it when it comes to being built you said it wasn’t worse when it comes to being built but others say it is worse when it comes to that so which one is it? It’s making it hard to believe either or some people say it is worse being built, because you still have to dig into the Earth for the materials and minerals for the battery. Is all been on videos like yours too that I’ve seen it not just from random people.
EVs are too fast and too quiet and have no gears, all these are part of my driving experience. The sound helps me know if something is wrong with the engine, and in combination with gears helps me know how fast I am going. For example, at 3d gear, at low revs I am at 80 km per h.
I think it’s a fair counterpoint that while EVs have no maintenance, a lot of comparisons to the Maintenance on cars is old info. Most cars can now go anywhere from 7500-12k miles before needing any changes.
A lot of dealers and auto makers also offer these services complimentary for the first few years, if not the life of vehicle in some cases. Also, regardless of what any fan boy says, insurance is almost never cheaper to comparable cars . Repairs are more costly and can only be done by “authorized “ in house automakers.
In any case, it’s always best to keep your old car if possible to save the most money
Battery life anxiety – when I retire I can expect a new ICE or hybrid vehicle to last me close to the rest of my life. With an EV the fear is that I will have to replace a $20k battery after 10 years.
We just sold our electric car, … I’m SO HAPPY it’s gone. Hours and hours I sat and sat doing nothing, I’ll never get this time back. Charging stations stole my life. I’m not getting any younger. No time to waste. … and I don’t need the anxiety or hassle
We don’t give you a driver binnacle to save money and reduce costs, but hey here’s a screen for the rear seat passengers that 90% of you will never use
So thanks! Living my best life one post at a time..
It´ll be great to see what´s inside the cells, what materials are used, what are the safety tests done and how tighten proof is also done.
Very good segment, only thing missing here is the discussion of waste with the lack of recycling technology.
No one’s talking about the radon gas that gets kicked up from the mines/ground from the drilling for lithium, and the green acid sludge that companies let sit at mining sites from the extraction process left to percolate and destroy ground water and lakes and streams cause no one wants to deal with that stuff or rather have no solution to that huge waste problem
I just read a bunch of the comments and not a single one has mentioned how all these EVs will bring many (or most) power grids to their knees or worse. The infrastructure simply isn’t in place to handle the kind of demand charging all of those vehicles will require. California is already begging their citizens to try and charge their EVs in “off” hours so as not to cause brown outs and outages. I can’t imagine how things will work when the number of EVs multiplies like they want.
Excellent breakdown of the pros and cons of EVs. One big issue I see with them is that they’re still not affordable enough for most people even with a tax credit. And on top of that a lot of people don’t have access to charging because they live in an apartment. Someday it’ll get there when the technology matures but not yet.
No one’s talking about the radon gas that gets kicked up from the mines/ground from the drilling for lithium, and the green acid sludge that companies let sit at mining sites from the extraction process left to percolate and destroy ground water and lakes and streams cause no one wants to deal with that stuff or rather have no solution to that huge waste problem
What about all the mining it takes to build solar panels and windmills and all the wildlife those kill.
Also, the child slave labor for the EV is way worse than the environmental stuff!!
The problem is in the global deforestation.
If people planted more trees they would not need to buy ev’s.
EV is not perfect, but is certainly better than petrol. It is a start using EV, until it get better through investment because of mass acceptance. Think about how far petrol car has advance since mass acceptance. Look at mobile phone advancement. EV will improve on efficiency and technological improvement to be more green.
Discussing the impacts of battery production in relation to cars without even mentioning the massive environmental impact of fossil fuel production is ridiculous.
This really isn’t that complicated. EVs are significantly better than ICE cars, and less or no cars are way better than both.
I know one thing that can save combustion engines, Biofuels, these are way cleaner to make than regular gas and has nearly no impact on poweroutput, and there is stuff out there that can be mixed with fuel to further make combustion more efficient
The main issue is choice. dont force me to buy EV by eliminating gas cars or taxing them heavily or some other trick.
Bhai kya bol Rahe ho battery banne Mehi jyada toxins environment me release hote he ,aur vo toxins petrol ke combustion Hota he usme Jo gas he usse bhai jyada harmful he
Aur battery 5 year me to change karvani padti he
Extracting petroleum, then refining then transportation… While lithium can be recycled after a cars became main stream also reduce cost
Respect++ for speaking the truth. People just fail to see the crisis that will occur when the need to dispose lithium battery arises.
Don’t forget. It makes more sense from a green perspective to keep your old car running and well-maintained as long as you can. There are significant environmental costs to both manufacturing a new automobile and adding your old car to the ever-growing collective junk heap.
With so called renewable energy, emissions for the production of solar panels (and the recycling of failed ones) also needs to be taken into account. As a mechanic I do service hybrid cars also and so many of them can’t even reverse out of the service bay without the petrol engine starting and when test driving the petrol engine spends more time running than you think.
Instead of bigger and more dense batteries inside EVs, you can also do what they did/are doing on parts of the Autobahn, and they do with busses in Arnhem, Netherlands, and with most trains in Europe. Make sure you don’t need batteries by providing overhead wires so they can run mostly off of those, then have a small battery on board to go the few miles without overhead wires when the power goes out or the end of the route isn’t electrified with overhead wires. This reduces the amount of batteries needed, and also the amount of LiCO³ needed. No new tech required. Also just do more busses, they also help making sure people don’t need cars, so that also reduces the amount of EVs needed
Also, please don’t use hello fresh, but advocate for cornerstores (or use them if you live in a place that has them) and get your groceries there. Uses way less fuel/power (bc economies of scale, it’s better to drive a truck for a neighbourhood than a lot of vans for induviduals) and you use less plastic
Lithium ion batteries, making spontaneous combustion respectable again.
Well… The prices did not seem to keep going up and are now back to the same price as in 2017. And the number of Electric vehicles produced ever year just keeps going up. In 2023 there were double the number of electrical car produced in 2021 (from~6 million to ~13 million). Dodge a bullet there .
The mining industry is also one of the slowest moving industries around. This isn’t due to intentionally moving slowly, but due to just how large and complex operations are. Mine planning is generally divided into three “terms” – short range, mid range, and long range. While short range is only a few days in advance, mid range is a few years. Long range planning goes a step further and includes the full life of the mine. Meeting the required production levels for a total shift to EVs would require global changes in long range planning, and we likely wouldn’t see any significant changes for decades.
With that said, it seems very irresponsible that so many countries would ban ICE car sales when we simply aren’t ready for it. This isn’t a political issue (trust me, mines don’t care where the ore is going, they’ll sell it to anyone willing to pay), it’s simply too lofty of a goal. Who knows, though, maybe I’ll end up getting a reply 10 years from now saying I was wrong.
The whole notion is rather moot to begin with, modern cars just a blib, a sizeable blib to be sure but still just a blib in our total emissions. Forcing the change will simply cause major economic damage reducing opportunities of reductions in bigger areas such as power generation, major infrastructure and construction, doing then all together will create extreme poverty globally and increase pollution by the historic ways.
It seems almost nobody is even considering the big picture bar some few individuals nobody seems to listen to.
I don’t have a problem with EVs. I prefer choice and not having bureaucrats dictate the market which almost always end up unintended consequences.
In the end, politicians want to reduce your freedoms by pushing EVs and public transportation to make it difficult to travel freely. They really don’t want you to drive anywhere, go anywhere freely. It’s not about the environment, it’s about power and control.
These EVs will come and go and people will realize they aren’t the right solution. This all costs too much money, and is not actually environmentally friendly at all. Renewable propane cars are much more eco-friendly, cheap, and will always be supported.
The thing you’re not mentioning is that a battery does not have to require lithium. There’s no need to rebuild any EV as soon as other battery types come into play, as they already are. In fact, the more time passes, the more efficient batteries become, and the fewer they weigh. It’s not like the bible, that never changes over time, this field is evolving faster than any other, exactly because it wants to solve things like lithium dependency.
And not a single word about recycling the current batteries for new vehicles. In 2035 there will be a huge number of disposed batteries waiting for a second life, and if we are smart enough we won’t throw them away, but we will try to find a process to gather their materials and create a new fresh battery… And in fact there already some companies doing that. That will be essential to ease the burden over the raw minerals extraction.
But let’s not forget this is all predicated on human produced carbon dioxide – 5% of 0.04% in the atmosphere -producing global warming which, we are told, has been going on for 45 years. If that is the case why can’t we witness the globe getting warmer! Look in your clothes closet.
Has that changed in the last few decades – more floral summer shirts and less polar fleece jackets. I don’t think so. I have asked a number of people if they witnessed global warming at all. I have never received a response in the affirmative. For me it is believing what I see seasoned with a pinch of common sense rather than the old ‘scientists say’ statement.
No Co2= No Life
Your story only works, if we actually needed these electric vehicles. And the fact is, we don’t.co2 does not cause climate change, apart from , to the benefits to the human race, due to increased food production, and other benefits of Co2, in fact, i we ever got to this mythical net zero, , as in no Co2. Then we would all starve to death. As no plants would be able to grow. And that would mean the end! This is fact, no amount of your argument,can escape this fact?
Looks like more of a problem than it is worth, the earth produces fuels as waste, and we will not run out of it, this EV thing looks more like a big scam to control people with electricity.
Man will do as much environmental damage as possible to achieve what’s being promoted as a ‘green’ future. If there’s money and power at the end of it, the damage will be done, and to hell with the collateral – especially if it’s in another country and not on your doorstep.
How do we deal with the eventual mountain of toxic ďead batteries…?
There is no such thing as man caused global warming. The UN is using this issue to take Billions of dollars from the American budget to stuff pockets of evil overlords in the UN. CO2 is not toxic and CO2 does not change the climate at all. The only does is to make the planet greener increasing food supplies and tree forestation.
Don’t worry I will never ever buy an electric car because I’m not an idiot. So all you brainwashed climate change activists can you tell me what is the carbon footprint of a burning EV
Also mining lithium is very toxic for the environment!! Plus, it’s way more of a limited resource then oil or natural gas! Battery powered cars are a trend not a solution! Just another way to offshore pollution to poor countries many of said countries hate the west so we’re just paying our enemies.
This is the end result of the world listening to a whiny privileged little girl who knows nothing but because the world she lives in praises her every fart as amazing and new. Nuclear energy is and has been a very clean energy and if we focused the amount of money into nuclear that we have into other bs ideas we could’ve solved this many years ago. Yet, once again the government listened to whiny, privileged people who know nothing.
Cobalt is not used in battery production anymore and it is likely that lithium battery technology will be superseded in the future. As always, never list tomorrows problems based only on todays technology.
I think the biggest problem with the idea of EVs has nothing to do with EVs, it has to do with the fact that if the energy grid itself doesn’t switch to a completely carbon neutral and renewable source of energy then it doesn’t matter anyway.
We really need to stop putting responsibility for climate change on individuals, when in the end it is a collective problem we need to solve collectively. The systems individual people cannot control are responsible for the vast majority of the harm.
WE ARE NOT READY FOR FULL ELECTRIC CARS
Electric car – the biggest scam the world has ever seen?
Has anyone ever thought about this?
‘If all cars were electric…
And if we were stuck in a three hour traffic jam in the cold of a snowstorm, our batteries would be completely dead.
Because electric cars basically don’t have heating.
And the fact that I was stuck all night on the street without battery, heating, wipes, radio, GPS, battery died a long time ago.
You can try to call emergency services and protect women and children, but they cannot come to help because every road is closed and probably every police car will be electric.
And when the roads are blocked by thousands of cars, no one will be able to move forward. How do you charge batteries on the spot?
Traffic jams are the same problem even during holidays.
It would not be possible to turn on the air conditioning in an electric car for a short time. Your batteries would be dead in no time! Of course no politician or journalist is talking about this, but it will happen.
The demand for Lithium is even worse than just replacing new cars. EV batteries tend to degrade fairly fast, within 5 years you will see a noticeable decline in your max charge and within 10 you will probably have to replace it depending on how well you take care of it. This means not only do you have to deal with making new EV’s to replace gas cars, but the battery is also the most likely part to need replacing on older ones.
Electric is not the solution and that is clear. A car with 300 miles of range doesn’t work for someone who drives more than 300 miles sometimes in a day. I drive around 1000-1500mi a week. Both for work and to see friends. I drive to areas where there is maybe one gas station and the next one isn’t for 50 miles. I know a town where the gas station doesn’t even have an attendant. Only a machine that takes the cards and 2 pumps.
I wouldn’t have any clue how far I would have to go for a charging station from there. Public transportation wouldn’t work because it’s too far out of the way. Not enough demand to put a train line or even a bus station there. There are simply not enough charging stations, they are not fast enough, the cars don’t have enough range, and they are not reliable enough especially with frequent charging. Not to mention the time that it takes to charge the cars. The far better solution would be biofuels or synthetic fuels. Preferably based on algae or another non food crop.
That way we can use the existing cars (with or without modifications), we can use the existing fuel infrastructure, and we can use some of the existing petroleum refining infrastructure. Not to mention it would make a much larger difference in CO2 emissions than just switching the cars to electric and massively increasing power demand. Not to mention none of the efficiency losses from producing, transmitting the electricity and charging the batteries themselves. A diesel engine can reach over 50% thermal efficiency. Gas ones can be as high as 35%. I don’t see how electric is ever going to get to that point.
EVs are never a viable solution for the World. We must make breakthrough innovations in making cheap renewable Hydrogen and Hydrogen ICE Engines. I wish Hydrogen ICE engined vehicles should become the future of mobility.
Relying on lithium with the present technology is naive. There needs to be constant research and development for improvement of batteries, for investigation of alternatives and for resolving problems like impact of cold weather and battery fires.
What are the by products and environmental risks of mining and refining lithium,are we killing killing our environment while saving it???
Lithium batteries will be the death of the electric vehicle. We need a quantum leap in battery tech roughly equivalent to the leap lithium was over previous battery tech just to make electric vehicles viable.
Everybody is nuts there are no real world studies that say EV’s are less polluting and now you say that lithium holds electric current and you are going to take all of it out of the wild and domesticate it what happens every time we domesticate things we get fat and lazy prove me wrong with your studies of obese people
They say go green it’s safe
The irony…. Yesterday in S. Korea Lithium battery factory went up in flames killed 22 people…. Yeah it’s safe lol
I’ll keep a regular ice car lol
Every battery modules will get damaged over time right? So one by one everything needed to be changed.
There are very less chances that a module or small battery gets damaged , the whole battery will go after a few years and changing a module or a smaller battery will also be very costly !!
I feel so inspired watching a entire business go under from a random electric fire
Damn so that’s what saving the environment looks like. Okay got it
It seems like when China is dominating the world EV market now with more than over a hundred brands and Tesla not so special anymore, the U.S. is deciding to even smear its only major EV pride.
lectric cars are bull shit.
Teslas are crap. I’m glad Hyundai EVs don’t have this issue. You’ll still be able to get out
In China, all EV’s have an easy and easily identified manual release. Not sure why the simplest of things are so difficult in the USA. Is it really the vehicles? Or the users?
Technology is great until it isn’t. This would never have happened to cars of the 60’s.
I’m surprised about all these comments about how people should read the manual. ICE cars have been for a long time, and I never see people checking their oil when they fill up their gas tank as the manual suggest. Same with checking and filling their tire once a month.
I will stick with my gas powered vehicle with the manual lock
How about concern over people not reviewing their owner’s manual? That’s the issue, not the battery.
We are an incredibly STUPID people.
Batteries are way worse for the environment than gas and carbon.
EV owners need to familiarise themselves with common sense and a proper car. Scrap these toxic appliances!
You are best off NOT buying EV vehicles that are inefficient and unsafe.
Biogas-powered combustion >>>>> EVs
Simply because we already recycle combustion engines reliably and not just as a venture startup that will go bankrupt immediately
All well and good but what percentage of batteries are actually recycled? In some countries it’s less than 10%. The rest goes to landfill.
Another issue is resale value of the car. I think it’ll depreciate rapidly because of the battery capacity drain
Battery damage due to accident and no satisfactory insurance cover is the biggest concern one should think of before going ev.
As in a ev the costliest thing is the battery only.
The main issue is most EV cars are actually combustion engine replaced by drive motors…… This can’t be termed as pure EV….. Actually EV,s should have been lot simpler with 4 hub motors and totally eliminating the transmission part. This wud also make it a perfect 4 wheel drive with just a fraction of cost. Besides the 4 hub motor concept will add on more milage and power too. The battery should have a concept of yearly subscription so that it cud be swapped at stations…. With info lithium tech so that user gets charged for the fully charged battery minus the charge lest in swapped one…… Such battery stations can be stacked in existing petrol bunks itself
What about the battery disposal process .
Will this battery be recycled in a eco- friendly manner.
Very detailed brief about each assembly and draw backs on the shoes of a customer . Good luck.
Buyers are preferring hybrid CNG cars but now GOVT is raising CNG prices, You can’t enjoy the benefits easily. Same will be with EV.
Eye opener points……in my opinion any industrialization over a green energy by business minds is going to spoil earth more than what it is currently.
Its a myth that ev is eco friendly. Lithium mining and refining has a big eco footprint.
Even though it’s controlled pollution Just like you fart in your room and keep farting while on the go
Petrol jamin se nikalne m to green energy use hoti h
So if you’re going on a long trip, get a rental petrol/diesel cars. Low risk, time efficient, just pay per day and fuel is on you.
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EV: 3 lakh km * 1 rs= 3 lakh
ICE : 3 lakh km * 6 rs= 18 lakh
Even after 800 to 1000 recharge cycle, battery is degrade but not 0. Work with 50 % efficiency also. No noise and vibration and also cg is low so that less roll over
For reference, Nexon Petrol is costing 10 Lacs and Nexon EV is 17.5 Lacs. With EV ur saving on running cost but your paying Rs 7.5 lac upfront/Extra that you would have paid gradually in a petrol or a diesel car.
As rightly pointed, your car becomes green only when the large battery Manufacturering facilities have emitted crazy gas in the atmosphere.
Road Pollution is only 8% in the world, hence EV cars or Technology is A BIG SCAM
When it comes to insurance point , bumper to bumper covers everything whether then it is battery even and when the car running is solely depends upon battery in case of accident l, ins co would bear the entire cost if it is zero depreciation. Else you may file a suit against a company
Saying EV’s pollute less than ice vehicles is not science. An ice vehicle can last decades while an EV is disposable as soon as the battery goes, 10 years tops.
Did you consider this when you proudly, without any evidence, say that ev’s are 75% cleaner than ice? Of course not. And you haven’t even proven that CO2 is bad for the environment. Prove that before you destroy our lives on a non existent problem. Batteries are great for many, many things, just not vehicles.
So true!
You forgot to mention about the fire hazard due to lithium batteries
Good information i will not buy now ev of tata tiago. Can you expalin what happens in water, i am from nepal, heres hars weather rainfall any time roads will be full of water, what happen on such conditions for evs
The resale value of the EV car will deplete with respect to time compare to petrol car.EV not a practical option in country like india in near future,.
EV car is just a technology demonstrator and owning one is rather for it’s novelty value.
If you work out it’s economics and practicality, it just doesn’t match upto the traditional fossil fuel cars.
Yes, hybrid cars hold promise for greater savings and lesser emissions if government eliminates/reduces the current 43% tax on hybrid cars.
If Toyota is to be believed, solid state batteries which can deliver 1200km range are just round the horizon and might be a game changer as far as the electrics go.
Aftermarket retrofitting of batteries to convert fossil fuel cars to hybrids will be the key to a cleaner environment and will save a lot of money for the middle class.
EVs are not practical to current scenario. Its just another alternative resource to available fuels which could reduce our import of fossil fuels dependency. But harssh reality is even evs are running on coal produced electricity not self sustaining like wind turbine produced electricity or hydro.
Best alternative fuels also are first in category is..
1. Strong or plug in hybrids.
2. Flex fuels like ethanols.
3. Newly developed hydrogen engines.
Best ev +petrol car motlob hybrid car, not ev car.
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Traditional lead acid batteries in gasoline & deisel vehicles work the same way at obviously lower voltages. A dead flat 12 volt battery will start charging at around 20 amps then as voltage increases the rate of charge slows to 2 amps and eventually charging will stop when battery is fully charged
The battery’s cathode/anode expands and contracts as it get to be charged and discharged. The repeated expansion/contraction between 100 and 0 charge level due to daily charging degrade the battery life.
I’ve been driving ICE cars for the best part of 40 years, and I have never had to worry about filling the tank up to 100% full or running it down to virtually empty…. I’ve done this thousands of times, and I can’t ever remember the engine or fuel tank blowing up or my range decreasing And the first litre goes in the same speed as a last litre (and every litre in between)
Bad for the battery is high charge low charge cold or hot Fast charge is very bad too
So if it says keep between 20 and 80% does that mean I have to run the battery down for 20% before I charge it back up to 80? Or can I charge it anywhere in between
But, many cars keep their batteries in a better temperature range when parked on a level 1 or 2 plug. So, which effects battery life more, temperature or state of charge?
lol so in winter let’s fill the battery up to 80% and lose 20% because I want to be warm, Let’s hope I don’t have a long drive or I won’t have the range to leave the house, your battery in your car is no different to you mobile, starts off fast and slows down when full, only difference with EVs people won’t want the slowing down part.
Some cars are better than other at this… Hyundai Iconiq fro example is rated at 38kw… in actual fact the battery is around 40-41, just by default your not allowed to access as a consumer that part of the battery to keep the health up
Can I ask a very important question here? I’m anxious to get really good informed opinion on this because unfortunately living in Southwest, (specifically Las Vegas) we are more vulnerable to our EV’s being permanately damaged right? Well that’s my question, does level 2 charging and driving my EV (even if it’s liquid cooled with proper thermal management) irrevocably compromise the long term battery range of the battery when the car is charging at night and it’s still 85 degrees? I know I should expect less range in the summer, but does driving the car in 100 plus temperatures from May until late August, actually permanately shorten the battery’s lifespan , or is driving the car in these temperatures and charging the car during these warm to severe hot summer months, going to have only a ”summer impact” and when the temperatures cool in the non summer months, I won’t see any permanent loss of range over time?
I am a self defense instructor and was using an Ev Charging station for the first time, please note your surroundings- the charging station I was using was in a sketch part of town, and I was using it during the daytime… I truly believe this man that approached me was going to try and rob me until I acknowledged him, he then turned around, and went a different way. I was trying to figure out my app for the first time and was spending more time than normal trying to troubleshoot the app and charge station (I’m a tech guy imagine that). Please everybody be safe out there know your surroundings and walk the perimeter of your vehicle while syncing up to charge…
If you want to extend life of Nickel based batteries keep regular charge limits to 70-75% and recharge at 40-45%. This usually is more than enough for most daily driving needs . This is especially important in hot weather . This doesn’t apply to LFP batteries .
Want the battery to last longer….slow down. Big difference n how often you have to charge.
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You’re definitely making sense plug-in is the next one to buy at least for me
All the morons that did already got an EV
They are not for everyone right now for sure. BUT if you drive very little like me it’s perfect. Right now they are giving them away because the mob is poo pooing
The fact that there’s no data of ev batteries failing still is astonishing. They been out for long enough time and if they giving 10 year warranties that easily then how old can they live? Are we making something out of nothing. Even transmissions fail eventually and so do we
Thy are a trap batery catch on fire door do not open ,do you want to be in there ,all the bat are shit a danger to the public ,hidrogen fuel sel is alot safer ,china just made a hidrogen push bike ,thats the way to go in cars ?
This is a mistake. Careless content. People arent smart enough to remember how vital it is that this takes hold.
I am a freakin conservative and I seem to realize this more than the frauds called Democtas/liberals.
Raise your hand if you think that the early stages of this brand new market and product which is a major shift from what weve been doing for 120 years should be as problem free as regular cars.
In china EV price start from 5000 USD
What you call ‘extreme weather’ we call normal weather conditions here in Wisconsin!!
One issue that nobody seems to raise is with having to charge your vehicle in the pouring rain. Nearly all chargers (including Tesla) are out in the open and you can get soaked fixing up and paying for it. Not so ICE cars where nearly ALL gas pumps are under cover.
This is big oil conspiracy, we are running out oil.
I hate the fact that EVs are literally forced down on us either due to regulations or taxes. And it’s done when these machines offer more problems than solutions, and are in general, unreliable, unaffordable, and unsustainable for a majority of people.
The most traumatic thing for me when I had an EV (Volvo XC40, awful, awful reliability), was getting stuck at a public charger TWICE, cable stuck in the car’s dead charging port, no way to manually unlock the freaking thing. Fortunately the problem “fixed” itself both times after a while. But it was enough to convince me to get rid of the car and go back to a non-plugin hybrid.
More like 40 to 70% loss of range in cold weather plus much slower charge speed and this is if you can even charge
EV is consumer electronics, and it behaves just like that.
Why I lease, new vehicle every 3yrs minimum maintenance woola!!
You concealed major issue – fire hazard and safety for owner and public. Which have a huge impact on maintenance and repair cost (and thus EV insurance) and start to have major impact on secondary insurance (houses and garages, parking spaces, repair services, car shops, shippings), and thus availability of parking spaces and ferries for EVs.
EVs are the future. Americans will cling to the old dying technology as the world moves forward.
I reckon all EV will be replaced by hydrogen car in the future to minimize the fire hazard and battery cost concerns! But it will take time for the whole car industries to convert into the H2O car!
Tires? Really. Come on. The additional weight of an EV is about the same as having a couple of passengers. I never hear anyone talking about the weight of pickup trucks and cost of tires!
And Insurance is NOT higher for EVs.
Prices dropped everyday EV cars.
But Electric prices go up everywhere
I’m not interested for many reasons. They are not economical and they are environmentally unfriendly. They are way more damaging to the environment than gas powered vehicles when you consider the life of the EV from mining the materials to production, to actual driving.
Thank you, you made up my mind
Some good points but many of them exaggerated. I’ve owned ICE cars for several decades, of course, and experienced both good and bad. I can make a video about why owning any car can be a nightmare. I have plenty of horror stories. Still, I recently bought an EV and I love it. The technology is amazing and the design is such a seamless experience. Of course, I live in a metro area which has several service centers and many chargers. I have a charger at home as well. The warranty on both the car and battery are great.
I do agree that it’s important to do your research and pick the option that works best for where you live, your financial situation, and your lifestyle. A hybrid is certainly a great option. But for now I am bracing the future.
EVs only appeal to those mainly in the city and “pure transportation” people. As far as “car guys” they appeal to straight line drag racing types (kind of). Huge torque and power. They don’t seem to hold much ground with those that keep the “Colin Chapman philosophy” deep in their hearts; Hella lightweight with decent power being purely handling focused with very minimal creature comforts (or nanny state safety tech).
If I were so unskilled/ stupid/ mentally lazy that I couldn’t handle an actual driver-controlled car to whip around curves I’d just ride a bus (if available), Train (if available), or plod along on a damn donkey and leave the people that wanted to actually drive alone.
Thank you for all the information,I think you are hundred percent right
Do not buy these death traps may catch fire
The EV batteries are NOT made using green technology, and a lot of people have died in the process of digging up the necessary materials
Older cars from the 60s worth more than cars from now
To address some of your “chicken little” prophecies, as far as charging times, Hyundai is currently advertising only 18 minutes on the New Ioniq 5 & 6, about degradation, a Ford Escape taxi in New York City has exceeded 500,000 miles on its original battery pack. And price? I’ve just seen a new Chevy Bolt SUV for $27,000. Here in Connecticut, the State gives people buying EVs $3,000 as a FREE down payment. There is NO $ales Tax. Some local towns even waive yearly Property Tax. In New Haven, you can get a FREE Parking Permit. Most cities and towns currently offer FREE charging stations near downtown shopping and dining areas. And those Diamond Lanes for multiple passenger computers on the Interstate can be used by the lone driver. Those all sound like major benefits and incentives to me. I allegedly bought the first Prius here and had nothing but trouble with it. Yet I WOULD buy another one because I believe in them. My next hybrid was the 2-seat Insight, which literally saved my life in a rollover during a Blizzard. They were both comfortable, quiet, fast, and awesome on gasoline consumption. Oh, I owned a 1958 Edsel Corsair with an enormous E-475 engine, which achieved up to 18mpg on a long trip. And a 2006 Airstream Parkway motorhome based on the Mercedes Sprinter van, whose turbo diesel engine often went above 20mpg. So yes, I have bought and driven things that went “vroom-vroom”. Just because they sound loud and can go fast make them any better. While I respect your concerns and opinions, I only pray your rampant naysaying won’t dissuade people from making the intelligent choice…
My first hybrid was a second hand chevy volt, bought it for 10 k because everyone was afraid of problems with EV s. my best car ever drove 4 years without problems and sold it after 5 yrs for 8 k no road taxes and I charged it with my solar panels Now Tesla y. Forget ll the problems you mention! The best charging system in Europe the lightest EV ‘the longest range per kWh I drive 8 km with 1000 watts. Don t be afraid. Everybody was afraid of The first steam engine on the road too! Testdrive it
Electric cars go so far why not add another electric motor to keep the car generated one for the wheels that’s we’re I would put the 2nd generad moter to power the electrical motor.js
EV’s should be banned !
I own an EV and have not seen any of these problems. If you get very low range, you are driving too fast. Air drag rises with the square of the speed. EVs are way more reliable than gas-guzzlers. My tires are wearing very little. I don’t accelerate or brake hard. I have only once found a public charger that was unreliable. There are apps that can direct one to an available station. I have several public charging stations closer than the nearest filling station. Even in winter my range is more than adequate for errands. In a year the degradation of the battery has not been noticeable. Most batteries deteriorate a few percent the first year and then 1% or less per year afterwards. It’s not an issue compared to routine oil-changes, timing belt replacements, sparkplug, air-filter and pcv replacement on a gas-guzzler. I am saving $thousands every year driving electrically.
Instead of complaining about EVs, people should demand better charging infrastructure for folks who can’t charge at home. If there are problems they can be fixed. The better economic value, energy consumption, noise reduction and pollution reduction of EVs is worthwhile.
I wouldn’t have one if was given to me free….No EV sales are dropping not worth the money and probs.
I would not depend upon a public charger. I plan on purchasing and ev. I will be charging from home. I will always keep a gas operated vehicle. and or a hybrid.
Long range batteries are heavier than standard range. If you don’t need the range, you’ll be lugging that extra weight around with you, everywhere you go, adding to your charging costs. It might not be worth the money, just to overcome battery degradation.
EVs arent for everyone but now there are affordable options when compared to ICE vehicles. It requires a change of mindeset especially around charging but to be fair, when I drove my tuned GTI I topped up with premium often and never let it get below 1/4 tank. Staying within 30-80 percent for daily commuting in a week wasnt a big change. If I intend to do a lot of driving, I charge to 100. If I get low 30s, I use the lv1 charger overnight and get about 30 miles. That gets me to the level 2 charging station at work.
As for tires, I know they will be pricey but so where performance tires for my GTI.
Overall EV ownership is working for me but I wouldnt recommend it to everyone.
The fact they exist along side gas, diesel, and hybrids are a good thing for the public and all this Anti ev sentiment is indirectly advocating to remain a target market for big oil.
Full disclosure, We have owned ICE both petrol and diesel, hybrid, and now an EV. the naysayers are focused on the negative. But ignore the positive. Range anxiety is a learned behaviour. One needs to look at what their 90% driving pattern is. Can I charge at home? How often do I do road trips and is there / will there be chargers enroute? The 80% charge is a practical thing at fast DC chargers. The last 20% of charge takes as long as the 10-80% charge most cars can do the latter between 20-30 min.
Once an EV gets to around 7 years in age they will have a relatively short range at best and extremely hard to sell at any reasonable price.
Electric cars are great for emissions, but horrible for the environment. Electric batteries use lithium. The lithium mines have children working in them. They destroy the environment in the mining and when they wear out, they cause a great deal of damage to the ground water. Over all, they do more harm to the environment than gas cars.
Owning an EV and using it is a more complex experience than using a fossil fuelled vehicle. There’s a learning curve to overcome. It’s not rocket science but you will quickly became a better educated motorist and appreciate the lack of vibration and noise the EV offers.
I always say maybe in 20 years from now, but now they’re not ready to go yet
I would nto buy an electric car for the life of me, only buying a hybrid makes sense these days.
So to me you don’t save on an electric vehicle…how interesting. I will never own one.Thanks.
Paid actor? When EVs is fully adopted it will be obvious its superior.
Depending on where you live, and how well the grid and infrastructure is build.
The need to make a heating pad for warming battery in winters
RAPID DEPRICIATION!! ITS MONEY THROWN OUT THE WINDOW
Golfer use to drive electric but now golfer do not want electric. They are all going to gas. Cheaper to operate. You can buy electric cheap but no one really wants them. Battery cost is so much more than gas. Learn from the golfing community.
My biggest concern is indeed the resell value. I have an Id.4 but I think I’m not gonna keep it longer than seven years hoping to have a decent resell price… fingers crossed.
EVs are non perforable after a crash
The Chinese electric cars are very affordable and some of them are just asa comfy as the US, German or Japanese cars. In The Netherlands the charging points are everywhere and hardly ever fail. An unpredictable range? Well, if you do your research you will exactly know what will have an impact on the driving range, so no surprise there.
Absolute toxic gimmick sold as Environmental friendly with toxic batteries, etc.
Just another EV crybaby. All negative nothing positive. Keep your gas dinosaur.
EV’s are only expensive if the Chinese imports are going to be slapped with 100% import duties. Let the competition come in and see how cheap they can be and if the Chinese produce junk that burn up, then nobody will buy them anyway.
Lots of YT’bers dining out on mis information. Battery degradation being the case in point. In terms of cost of ownership when it comes Tesla, zero servicing cost, zero road tax and £12 to fill up at home. In comparison my previous ICE, servicing 650 pa, road tax 600 pa and each fill up £80, 3 times per month! Don’t let fear mongers put you off.
re depreciation, regularly 50% after 3 years, so pretty normal. Finally in terms of costs again cost of a new tesla less than a golf
Do your own research rather than rely on poor quality advice
For anyone who says “I have been ev owner for x years, no issues etc etc”
Please note:
1. It’s a PROBLEM for people who don’t have a home chargers.
2. It’s a PROBLEM for people who don’t have a second ICE car for long trips(who often do long trips).
3. It’s a big PROBLEM for people with issues 1&2 and live in places which have cold winters.
The issue of range is a problem for some. If you tow long distances, if you can’t charge at home or work, if you drive hundreds of miles in a day frequently. Then I’d say an EV is going to create some inconvenience, you will spend more time than you want charging it.
As for the other issues: There are plenty of facts to show this video is misrepresenting reality. For myself, I go by a simple rule regarding vehicles. If a model is new (ICE or EV), I wait at least 3 years to see how the reliability statistics show if that car is made well or not. If they prove over 3 years to be reliable with few issues, that correlates directly to long term reliability. As for other concerns on reliability, no proven track record, etc., that is nonsense. Lithium-ion batteries have been with us for decades and the data on degradation is quite clear. Which is why EV batteries are lasting consistently much longer than expected. It’s because the data out there is proven, and manufacturers know what is needed to insure a long life for the batteries.
Like any major purchase, you should do your research before buying. Unfortunately, this video is opinion based and doesn’t present any facts to back up those opinions.
I’m happy with my fuel car. No way will I ever buy an electric car. Fuel cars ftw
I love oil lovers’ hate for EVs, amazing !
Very cold weather area’s “Pre-Condition”(at least Tesla’s have that option)before leaving your home!!! I did just fine last year in -30F and snow condition driving was just as good if not better than ICE vehicle’s I’ve owned throughout my 30 yrs of driving. Yes, in the sub-zero I lost some range but nowhere near 30%
Does this mean that all my dream plans are starting to scatter? I live in Sweden and I started to have dreams of traveling all over Sweden by buying an electric car, but after this video I felt sad. It seems that the world of electric cars needs a long time to improve performance.
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